8 responses to “Finding Mr Rewrite”

  1. Matt Keefe

    One of the very best posts you’ve done, Gav. Highly informative.

    1. a_thousand_hats

      Agreed – great post Gav and good luck with the rewrite too.

  2. schaferlord

    great post,

  3. Richard Brewster

    Insightful as normal. Cheers for sharing Gav :-)

  4. Chilon

    Hi Gav,

    I have an out of theme question regarding “Raven’s Flight”.
    In the end it mentions that less than 3.000 marines are left out of 18.000 or 80.000 ? It sounds more like 80.000 but if you do the math, according to what Agapito mentions in the beginning that they’ve lost 75%-90% of the legion and they were at the moment about 4.000 marines which sums up the losses at about 78%, the starting number should be 18.000 marines.

    So what number is it?

    I really liked “Raven’s Flight” so please try to do something else for Raven Guard in HH or 40k (a novel or even better trilogy would be fine).

    1. gavthorpe


      The Legion’s strength before the drop is roughly eighty thousand marines. Agapito admits his initial casualty estimate is very rough; the total losses from the dropsite and retreat being closer to 95% (seventy-six thousand dead Astartes!) by the time Corax has gathered his troops, with a further 1,000 or so Raven Guard lost during the subsequent fighting.

      Glad you liked Raven’s Flight. I’d like to do more with the Raven Guard in the HH, we’ll have to see what happens…


  5. Tim

    Wotcha Gav,

    Do you find it hard to get back into a story if it comes back from an editor with suggested corrections or changes (e.g. for pace) ? or do you know instinctively where you are in the story so you do not have to re-read to get back into the feel/pace of it ?



    1. gavthorpe

      Hey Tim,

      One of the benefits of games developer experience is my fairly rigid attitude to ‘version management’. My process is one of complete drafts, no going back before a draft is finished (except for the odd little thing you just happen to spot whilst on tea break). So, first draft is the ‘bash it out, get it done’ stage. Second draft is a spellcheck. Third draft is quick read-through. At this stage I consider the manuscript suitable for sending to the editors and won’t touch it again until I get their feedback – normally becauser I;ve got draft one or synopsis to write for something else! Fourth draft is editorial corrections – I focus only on the direct comments from the editor(s) and address every point raised (even if it is to ignore something now and then). Fifth and final draft is my second read-through, which may involve several read-throughs as detailed in the post. At no stage do I interrupt the editing or writing process and always complete the draft on the whole manuscript.

      By doing this, it means I’ll pick up on the structure and pacing again as I am reading through; particularly for the first draft. I think a lot of writers (seduced by the wiles of modern word processors) spend too much time early on doing first edits rather than a proper but rough first draft. During that first draft, after a break of more than an hour, I’ll re-read the last five hundred words or so to get myself back up to speed with the current pacing and then carry on from where I left off.

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